Last night I was talking with one of the people I know from church and he was debating the point that we shouldn't listen to any music that isn't Christian. The argument that he used is that when we listen to non-Chrisian music, we are being ministered by it and this is a bad thing. He used the passage from the bible (Proverbs 25:19-20), which reads a bit different in English than it does in Spanish.
Here it is in my bible:
Proverbs 15:19-20
Like a bad tooth or a foot out of joint, so is confidence in an unfaithful person at the time of trouble. 20 Like one who takes off a garment on a cold day, or like vinegar poured on soda, so is one who sings songs to a heavy heart.
And in Spanish:
Proverbios 15:19-20 (Reina Valera)
Como diente roto y pie descoyuntado es confiar en un prevaricadoren momentos de angustia. 20 El que canta canciones al corazón afligido es como el que se quita la ropaen tiempo de frío o el que sobre el jabón echa vinagre.
Ok... so after I read this again I see that they are actually the same, just the order that threw me off completely.
Ok, I think that we can all agree on one thing; something is only wrong if it causes someone to sin. I read this very
interesting website on listening to secular music and the guy seems to make some very good arguments in favor of listening to secular music. Firstly, God created all things, including music. He gave us the ability to create any type of music that we want, whether it be a song of praise, a song of hatred, or a song that has no lyrics at all. He says the following:
So if I wrote a song about cows and sausages, there would be nothing wrong with that. As a Christian I can write songs about algebra and the circulatory system and meeting girls. God created all those things. Why would it be wrong to sing about such things? I am singing about God's wonderful creation, and at the same time using a God created medium – music.
Not all the music we listen to needs to be music of praise and worship to God. However music can also be used as a medium to spread hatred or any sort of worldy false belief, such as the many artists now that promote fornication and exploitation of women, false religious cults such as satanism, hatred or racism (know what i'm saying nigga), etc etc. This music in itself it not evil, i.e. the musical notes they play and the sounds they make with their voice are not evil things; the message that they convey is where the problem is. But is it a bad thing to listen to a song about something, such as satanism? In the bible there are many times where it talks about kings doing evil things or satan influencing people or tempting Jesus, etc. The bible talks about many sins. When we turn on the TV, we are bombarded with how many Iraqis decided that they would blow themselves up for their religion, how many students were shot in school that day, how many Catholic priests raped altar boys the day before, etc etc. But does that mean that we shouldn't watch the news? Well in my opinion, it all comes down to how it makes you feel and what it makes you do. Does it make you feel upset after seeing these things happen? Well then don't watch the news. Does it make you want to sin when you watch these things happening? Does it make you hate people or wish they were dead? Well then don't watch it. I would apply the same reasoning to music. Does the music you listen to make you feel upset after you hear it or does it make you want to sin? Well then don't listen to it. Listening to the music is not a sin. It is only a sin when you turn around and start sinning.
The website also made another very good argument and actually coincides with the argument against it that the guy I was talking to yesterday made. When we listen to the music, we learn the lyrics and often go around singing them. Even if the song doesn't contain any curse words, you may:
- not be projecting a good Christian image.
- cause others who view that listening to secular music to be bad to follow your example. Even though it is not a sin to listen to secular music, if they believe it to be a sin, it will be a sin to them because they are disobeying what they believe God expects of them, even if those expectations are wrong.
This is a good argument against listening to secular music and it definitely sounds like a valid answer to me. However what would the solution be? The author of the website proposes that we try to abstain from listening to secular music around those Christians who are weaker in their faith so that we don't cause them to stumble. To me it seems like an okay answer, but at the same time almost hypocritical. God wants us to be people of integrity. I believe that we should be the same person in church as I am when I hang out with my worldly friends and when I'm in my room alone at night. I shouldn't have to change who I truly am so that I can please certain social groups.
One of the things that the guy I talked to last night was talking about was this dance that they made for the youth of the church. Personally, I didn't really see anything wrong with it, but he made a good point. Dancing is something that the people of the world do when they go to clubs or bars or whatever. When Christians go out dancing with each other, even if they are dancing to Christian music, it is like they are bluring the lines between Christianity and the world, and this shouldn't exist. There should be a strong distinction between the two and when someone sees us, they should know that we are a Christian from how we act and what we do and
don't do. I'm not sure if I entirely agree with him on these points though. Personally, I no longer enjoy going to bars or trying to find the best looking girl to dance with or drinking, but as long as the dance is not vulgar, I don't see any problem with a Christian couple to go out and dance together. Actually I think it may even be something healthy for them, provided they are in the right environment. Maybe if it is in a bar, they may be tempted into getting drunk or smoking or whatever, but if a Christian couple were to find a secluded place and throw on some romantic music and slow dance the night away, holding each other in their arms, I don't see anything wrong with that.
So... yeah I dunno how I got off onto this tangent, but it's just been bothering me lately. I don't want to be a hypocrite and listen to secular music at home and Christian music when I am at church or when I go out with my friends. The bible says:
1 Thessalonians 5:17-18
constantly pray, in everything give thanks. For this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.
It is just hard. Does anyone actually live up to these expectations? Do you give thanks to the Lord every time you poop for the ability to have the privelage of using toilet paper? Do you give thanks every time you look at the sky for the beauty that God created? Do you give thanks every time you bang your thumb with a hammer for the ability to learn the hard way to be more dextrous? I know I would have to answer "no" to every one of these questions. In fact, I don't know if I've ever given thanks to God for toilet paper. Man.... honestly.... thank God for toilet paper! haha... ok, but honestly, can we still listen to secular music and give thanks to God at the same time? I suppose we could extend this question to further things... could we watch a music video and still give thanks to God? What about a non-Christian movie? What about reading non-biblical books? What about viewing a non-Christian website? Using a non-Christian search engine? Using a computer monitor created by a company that sacrifices babies to an imaginary god? Where do you draw the line?
k.... comments please... especially you Alicks!